[Users] puzzled

Fri Sep 18 11:55:23 CEST 2009

Paul, I understand, but I think this is dangerous (and, although it  
has some logic, few expect such response of the system: you change a  
word and then you appear as author...of a new resource). Perhaps it  
will be better that resources are attributed to the first person who  
submit it and, then, all changes are recorded as Comments or Additions.

Anyway, I doubt even implementing such procedure will affect this  
particular issue. I have changed already the rights holder, and made  
it non public non searchable (because I can not change the field:  
Created by...).  But I do not know how to delete it, there is no such  
item at

http://i2geo.net/xwiki/bin/view/GWT/Editor? 
xpage=plain&page=Coll_tomas.Pythagoraswithoutwords&mode=edit

Thanks so much

Tomas

El 18/09/2009, a las 11:41, Paul Libbrecht escribió:

> Tomas,
>
> it was contributed with your user... so you were contributor...  
> erm... I can't see this any different.
> Now, at that time you did not take the time to either make it non- 
> public, non-search-result, or put a different rights-holder. Maybe  
> now is the time. You could even delete it if it is at some other  
> place anyways.
>
> paul
>
>
>
> Le 18-sept.-09 à 11:25, Prof. Tomas Recio a écrit :
>
>> Pavel (Leischner): well, the furor is not about your (correct)  
>> comment, but about the fact that someone (me in this case) appears  
>> as the author of a resource when I have nothing to do with it. I  
>> do not even know how to delete the Czech sentence appearing there  
>> (I know about this resource less than you...maybe you can delete  
>> it better).
>>
>> Thanks to Roman, who has recalled me this resource was just a test  
>> (Pavel Pech and myself were learning about the features of the  
>> platform, past January, and we choose at random a Czech resource  
>> and then edited, etc..It seems that this simple fact (changing a  
>> few words on the title or assigning a topic, etc.)  automatically  
>> yields authorship for the person who makes the changes).
>>
>> It is not crucial in this innocent issue, but it could be very  
>> dangerous if one manipulates a resource containing, say, some very  
>> inconvenient items of some kind. Something should be done to  
>> prevent this.
>>
>>
>> Thanks to you all  for your help.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Tomas
>>

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El 18/09/2009, a las 10:24, leischne at pf.jcu.cz escribió:
>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>
>>> I am sorry for the furor about my discussion remark in Czech  
>>> language, so
>>> I must explain it.
>>>
>>> My remark criticises the Czech text in the Cabri-file:
>>>
>>> “Pythagorova v&#283;ta tak, jak ji údajn&#283; používali   
>>> Indiáni, aniž by
>>> to tušili.”
>>>
>>> In English it means:
>>>
>>> “Pythagoras theorem in the form, with which reputedly worked  
>>> Amerindians,
>>> but they did not know it.”
>>> It is nonsense! The puzzle comes from medieval India and Indian
>>> mathematicians certainly knew the matter.
>>>
>>> I recommend to Thomas Recio to delete the Czech sentence in the  
>>> file, or
>>> substitute it by this:  Skláda&#269;ka pochází ze  
>>> st&#345;edov&#283;ké Indie.
>>> (that means: The puzzle comes from medieval India).
>>>
>>> Because the diacritical marks in Czech text could be break durig the
>>> transport, I  give the upper text as the attachement in pdf format.
>>>
>>> Pavel Leischner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tomas,
>>>>
>>>> (allow me to move this discussion to users at inter2geo.eu)
>>>> There's no bug here I think. There may have been a misunderstanding
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> You can see the complete history of this resource here:
>>>>    http://i2geo.net/xwiki/bin/view/Coll_tomas/ 
>>>> Pythagoraswithoutwords?viewer=history&showminor=true
>>>> (an admin can have this with a button)
>>>> and I believe the software is right to say that you contributed  
>>>> it on
>>>> the 29th of January of this year but could be criticized to say  
>>>> that
>>>> it was updated two days ago (where it was commented about).
>>>>
>>>> What bothers you is that this professor says that you are the
>>>> author.... I can understand that but you should please care to  
>>>> change
>>>> the "Rights Holder" in this resource... it's a free text that is  
>>>> part
>>>> of the information about a resource and you can safely indicate the
>>>> right person there. It was always there but since about the  
>>>> middle of
>>>> this year it is more prominently shown on top of the default view.
>>>>
>>>> To clear things for this resource:
>>>> - can you please take the time to press the edit link and put the
>>>> right rights holder?
>>>> - can someone translate the comment of Pavel Leischner?
>>>>
>>>> thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> paul
>>>>
>>>> Le 17-sept.-09 à 16:41, Prof. Tomas Recio a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I understand. The comment is from yesterday, but this professor  
>>>>> from
>>>>> JCU thinks I am the author of the resource and that I have made  
>>>>> the
>>>>> translation to czech of the words appearing there!! This is
>>>>> terrible. I am NOT the author of the resource.... I told you long
>>>>> ago that this Curriki feature is painful (and, I will say, almost
>>>>> illegal: I should not be assigned to be the rights owner just
>>>>> because I have visited it once and, perhaps, corrected a missing
>>>>> link or a wrongly written competency...).
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, too busy now to take care of this isssue...
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El 17/09/2009, a las 15:38, Paul Libbrecht escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Look at the comments, I suppose he updated it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://i2geo.net/xwiki/bin/view/Coll_tomas/ 
>>>>>> Pythagoraswithoutwords?bc=&viewer=comments
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which google translate translates as:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le commentaire figurant dans le fichier provenaient de la parole?
>>>>>> Traduction en tchèque est mauvais. Je ne sais pas qui l'a  
>>>>>> fait. Au
>>>>>> lieu d'Indiens d'être Indiens. C'est le fameux «fiancée chaise.
>>>>>> S'il a écrit un commentaire Recio, puis exagérer. Mathématiciens
>>>>>> indiens savent certainement ce qu'elle est.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C'est du p'tit nègre!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 17-sept.-09 à 14:01, Prof. Tomas Recio a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul, how come I am the author of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://i2geo.net/xwiki/bin/view/Coll_tomas/ 
>>>>>>> Pythagoraswithoutwords
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> done on Sept. 16 (yesterday)!! I can swear I did nothing  
>>>>>>> yesterday
>>>>>>> about i2geo platform....not even visiting a resource....Have
>>>>>>> enough to do the annual report...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tomas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <Remark.pdf>
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